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A Few More Points About Charter Schools And Extended Time

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I appreciate your nuanced dissection of the issues here, and I agree with you that collective bargaining is a necessary counterweight to employers who would seek significant increases in work without otherwise addressing compensation. And keep in mind, American teachers for the most part already spend so much time directly working with students that they generally lack adequate time for all of their other responsibilities. I don't have the citation, but have seen several times information showing that in leading nations, teachers actually spend 1-2 hours per day on their own learning, collaboration, etc. So, I think the solutions we should look at involve bringing more people into schools. Pre-service teachers might have a role to play here as part of a modified induction and training approach. Community organizations might be engaged to provide some services at school, during this extended day. Of course, to prevent setting off battles with unions, we should be engaging them from the start in coming up with creative solutions, not viewing them as obstacles.

<p>No. Remember, research by Mass2020 has found when the extra 2-4 months were done by "regular" schools, no effect. Moreover, hours don't explain the variation within KIPP. Some have many hour "extra hours" than others. Moreover, hours don't explain the variation by charter markets. Boston charters on average are not much diff than New Orleans or NYC. But Boston charters way better results. I would argue that the lesson learned is the totality of No Excuses schools. And that starts not with longer day, but with a focus on school culture, and on obsessive measurement, and on human capital. The Hoxby thing you linked to probably picks up No Excuses schools which happen to have more hours. * * * I'm not aware of a study that compares charters with long hours, but wouldn't that be the test? a. Regular charters with long hours, who are not No Excuses schools versus b. No Excuses charters, with similar hours And then find which ones create what size gains for kids? If I understand, your hypothesis is the groups would be similar. My hypothesis is that b would far outperform a.</p>

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