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Do Teachers Really Come From The "Bottom Third" Of College Graduates?


Thank you for this, from a teacher who graduated in the top 2% of her high school class, 1st in her undergraduate science program, and with a 3.8 in her masters degree. It's nice to see someone actually taking a look at this data.

B.A. = 3.5/4.0 (and I worked 30 hrs. a week during my entire undergraduate experience) M.Ed. = 4.0/4.0 I also taught for two years in the Peace Corps. Bloomberg and the rest of these so-called reformers need to shut their mouths. Now.

Important point by Barry, in that whatever evidence exists on the connection between SAT/ACT scores and future effectiveness is based mostly on productivity measures of teachers in tested grades (usually 3-8) and subjects (math/reading).

I, too, am one of those teachers with good SAT scores (1440/1600), a 3.99 GPA in high school (6th in my class, darn C+ in typing), 3.8 GPA BA (major Classics), and a 3.6 M.A.(major Classics), and am currently enrolled in a Ph.D. in Latin. I have a couple of questions, though, about how they are deriving the numbers. Are they only counting teachers who majored in education and then actually taught? What about all the career switchers or persons like myself, who never formally majored in education? When I started teaching, I was actually working on certification, though I had my Master's in my content area. Would I have been counted then? I hold no degrees in education. Also, the point that was made in one of the earlier comments about potential impacts of socioeconomic status of teachers is a good one? I was the first person in my family to receive a college degree, and that lack of familiarity with higher education did make the process more difficult.

Another bit of chaff thrown into the mix was some anecdotal date picked up by SAT takers some years ago. A number of people who indicated they were thinking of going into teaching received low SAT scores. It turned out that few of these people made it into any teaching program. I think it was George Will who wrote about it initially and started the gears of the propaganda machine grinding away. Gerald Bracey wrote about this. Will also generated the fabrication that teachers send their kids to private schools at a higher percentage than the regular population. Turns out, when matched for SES, the opposite is true. Again, Bracey wrote about this. There is also a significant study done by ETS "How Teachers Compare" that conclude, in general, that teachers rank academically with any other profession requiring a degree.



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